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Kiran Hill
Indeed a lot of people would be out of work. A lot of people would lose some sweet gigs. It is good to be king, and the drug war makes a lot of kings.
However in keeping with the theme that government cannot but be a burden on the overall creation of wealth;
though many would lose their jobs without a drug war, and lose their sweet gigs, many more would flourish, and flourish in a more honest way. And the creation of wealth would increase.
Slaves and slavemasters lost their jobs with the end of slavery.
Kiran Hill
However in keeping with the theme that government cannot but be a burden on the overall creation of wealth;
though many would lose their jobs without a drug war, and lose their sweet gigs, many more would flourish, and flourish in a more honest way. And the creation of wealth would increase.
Slaves and slavemasters lost their jobs with the end of slavery.
Kiran Hill
If the government is adding teachers, and adding cops, the two are not as different as it seems. Both are funded through force.
Cops, as they are now are funded to have authority over you (though that was never the intention in the constitution).
Teachers paid by the government are funded by you whether or not you agree. Whether or not you use their services. Whether or not you agree with what they teach. Whether or not you like their methods or morals.
Kiran Hill
Cops, as they are now are funded to have authority over you (though that was never the intention in the constitution).
Teachers paid by the government are funded by you whether or not you agree. Whether or not you use their services. Whether or not you agree with what they teach. Whether or not you like their methods or morals.
Kiran Hill
As for Japan; Government can conceivably make one choice for others better than they could for themselves. That is, one out of 100. However, when you allow government the power to make choices for you against your will, they will make more than that one right choice.
And more choices will be wrong than right. Hence the failure of the Soviet Union. Hence the success or the more capitalist more free countries.
You can always point to one right choice. But success is a series of right choices, and government doesn't make those, individuals do.
Japan in the long run would have been better had their government not had the ability to do that.
John | February 6, 2009, 12:46pm | #
I would reccomend a book called Dogs and Demons.
http://www.amazon.com/Dogs-Demons-Tales-Dark-Japan/dp/0809039435/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233942280&sr=8-1
It is about Japan in the 1990s. No one borrowed more or invested more in "infrastructure" in response to an economic downturn than Japan did in the 1990s. They basically paved over their entire countryside. No kidding. It did them absolutely no good and left them with anemic growth and the highest national debt of any industrialized country. Anyone who thinks that we can borrow our way to prosperity, needs to explain why such an approach failed so miserably in Japan.
Kiran Hill
And more choices will be wrong than right. Hence the failure of the Soviet Union. Hence the success or the more capitalist more free countries.
You can always point to one right choice. But success is a series of right choices, and government doesn't make those, individuals do.
Japan in the long run would have been better had their government not had the ability to do that.
John | February 6, 2009, 12:46pm | #
I would reccomend a book called Dogs and Demons.
http://www.amazon.com/Dogs
It is about Japan in the 1990s. No one borrowed more or invested more in "infrastructure" in response to an economic downturn than Japan did in the 1990s. They basically paved over their entire countryside. No kidding. It did them absolutely no good and left them with anemic growth and the highest national debt of any industrialized country. Anyone who thinks that we can borrow our way to prosperity, needs to explain why such an approach failed so miserably in Japan.
Kiran Hill
The way I see it in a free country, citizens have certain duties, to protect the rights of others in their society. Some are going to be more busy, and are not going to have time to do their duty, and can pay others who have more time and inclination to help the fulfill their responsibility. Those would be the full time cops.
I think the origin of modern day police departments in the US are private detective agencies of big companies. They were, like todays police notorious for not being to concerned about citizens constitutional rights.
Kiran Hill
I think the origin of modern day police departments in the US are private detective agencies of big companies. They were, like todays police notorious for not being to concerned about citizens constitutional rights.
Kiran Hill
Alexander,
There can't be personal freedom without economic freedom, but there can be somewhat economic freedom without personal freedom. As such, there are places with a little more economic freedom than the US. Taiwan, Singapore, used to be Hong Kong.
(pretty much everywhere that is extremely prosperous, is also very economically free, the two go hand in hand)
Also, I don't think we are less free in the social realm (I mean except for outposts of fascism like NY) I think that on the contrary we are among the most free socially. We are becoming less so more and more.
The Patriot Act
McCain Feingold
This recent absurd stimulus package
are reducing our freedoms continuously. But unlike the rest of the world we still have a 1st A (at least supposedly) we still have a 2nd A (supposedly) a 4th and a 5th A (on the books).
Even with our loss of liberties it will still be our men with guns going over to fix Europe when their governments start throwing brown people in ovens again
Kiran Hill
There can't be personal freedom without economic freedom, but there can be somewhat economic freedom without personal freedom. As such, there are places with a little more economic freedom than the US. Taiwan, Singapore, used to be Hong Kong.
(pretty much everywhere that is extremely prosperous, is also very economically free, the two go hand in hand)
Also, I don't think we are less free in the social realm (I mean except for outposts of fascism like NY) I think that on the contrary we are among the most free socially. We are becoming less so more and more.
The Patriot Act
McCain Feingold
This recent absurd stimulus package
are reducing our freedoms continuously. But unlike the rest of the world we still have a 1st A (at least supposedly) we still have a 2nd A (supposedly) a 4th and a 5th A (on the books).
Even with our loss of liberties it will still be our men with guns going over to fix Europe when their governments start throwing brown people in ovens again
Kiran Hill
Also, America unlike Japan or Europe is founded based on the idea that the only legitimate use of government is to protect life, liberty and property.
We came to exist because our people were doing fine without government, we had established infrastructure and society without government. When our English government pulled its head out of its ass, and tried to re-establish its domain, and do for its colonies what other European governments were doing for their colonies, we rebelled and said "we don't need you".
And in doing so we created the most prosperous, most innovative, fastest wealth creating country of any country in all of the history of the world.
When the US Government started to build highways and bridges and infrastructure From FDR onward. It was a move AWAY from what had made us so prosperous and free, not towards it. It was a move toward European fascism. FDR was a fan of Mussolini and Lenin, and not of Thomas Jefferson.
We came to exist because our people were doing fine without government, we had established infrastructure and society without government. When our English government pulled its head out of its ass, and tried to re-establish its domain, and do for its colonies what other European governments were doing for their colonies, we rebelled and said "we don't need you".
And in doing so we created the most prosperous, most innovative, fastest wealth creating country of any country in all of the history of the world.
When the US Government started to build highways and bridges and infrastructure From FDR onward. It was a move AWAY from what had made us so prosperous and free, not towards it. It was a move toward European fascism. FDR was a fan of Mussolini and Lenin, and not of Thomas Jefferson.
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